CrimsonAngel
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Post by CrimsonAngel on Dec 31, 2003 16:21:05 GMT -5
Its made to think in society that cutting yourself, inflicting pain on yourself, is such a bad thing. But why is it? Self inflicted harm, they say, means you have issues. Well f*ck that. If society hadn't portrayed this thought of cutting to be so bad, would people still think it was such a horrible thing?
Why does society automatically think it has something to do with a past trauma? I know quite a few people who cut because they like it. Parents tell you to do what makes you happy, well you know what makes me happy, cutting myself, and if god damn society has a problem with that, they can kiss my ass, because I don't want to stop anytime soon.
-Sorry about that guys, I just got in a argument with someone who told me that cutting is such a horrible thing. Honestly, I don't think it is. If it makes you happy, then why is it so unhealthy? Some things like that I just don't understand
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Post by Lina Inverse on Dec 31, 2003 21:50:32 GMT -5
Well..... I've thought of a few reasons why it's unhealthy. A measly few 1.It's addictive. 2.If you overdo it, you'll accidentally kill yourself or cut up some nerves or something. 3.If you aren't careful, you'll get infections. *realizes that if you think about it, we're all addicted to food. and if we eat too much food, we'll die. And if we aren't careful, we'll get food poisioning.* But aside from that little connection between cutting and food...... It's still easy for cutting to take over your life without you even realizing it..... So as a rule of thumb..... you have to be really careful about it, but after that, people should learn to just f*ck off.
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CrimsonAngel
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Post by CrimsonAngel on Jan 1, 2004 4:48:40 GMT -5
What do you do about cutting when it hurts the only person you love? I'm so confused about it, I almost lost him tonight cause he found out I was cutting again....I don't want to stop...I'm so f*cking addictec...I dunno if I can.....if anyone knows what I can do...let me know....cause I don't f*cking know what to do anymore
By the way, happy new years
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Post by :.:.:KrO NiC DaZe:.:.: on Jan 1, 2004 5:39:31 GMT -5
well about the poem...it seemed more like a short story...but I really like the message...if cuttin is so bad then so is sex and I don't see people makin sex out ta be so bad...there are risks wit cuttin but there's also risks wit sex...like gettin an std...ok and bout ur problem...I really don't know what ta tell you...I've been in this situation before and I always chose ta keep cuttin...and I lost alot of people I really care about...but I believe that you should do what makes you happy....so I'm kinda confused on what you should do or what is the right thing...I guess if you love him then you should stop...cuz it aint worth losin someone you love...aiight I'ma shut up now...Lata
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CrimsonAngel
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Post by CrimsonAngel on Jan 1, 2004 13:44:54 GMT -5
it wasn't a poem...it was just kinda my rant....heh....But yeah, I want to stop, for him....but I don't want to stop cutting, cause I like it....I mean sure, cutting has its risks, but doesn't everything we do have risks? Me sitting here typing has risks, my computer could over heat and blow up in my face....It is possible...So I mean, I guess I just don't understand why I need to stop...I mean, yeah I don't want to lose him, but I really don't want to stop either....
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Post by _black phoenix_ on Jan 1, 2004 14:18:30 GMT -5
well, it sounds to me that you just need to choose between the two.. your partner(im not sure what to call him) and cutting. it will take a lot of thinking to decide.. but you will eventually need to make a choice. you need to think of the positive and negative outcomes of each choice and figure out which seems like a better idea overall. obviously you will be a unhappy with whichever you choose, but you really cant do anything about that.
it seems that you have already made the choice.. but that you just need a little bit of support. let him know that you enjoy it, but you do want to stop.. for him.
hope that was of some help. im not really sure what else to say.
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Post by softspokenlies078 on Jan 1, 2004 15:51:33 GMT -5
well i was kinda in the same situation and i had been cuting for like a few years and i just stopped like completly and im not sure if that was a good idea because then i stopped eating and had thes weird urges to hit things all the time which wasn't very good because i hit a hole into the wall and my mom got mad ok that was really bad advice sorry -Jess
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Post by Lina Inverse on Jan 1, 2004 17:11:46 GMT -5
One thing that has really helped me quit (well....... at least reduce my cutting a whole bunch) is my antidepressants. Even though they aren't magic anti-cutting pills, if you get less depressed, you won't need to cut as often.
So even if you still like to cut.... it'll be easier to sacrifice it for your love if you're feeling better.
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Post by black jewelled rain on Jan 2, 2004 2:07:15 GMT -5
I think you can'y look at cutting on it's own like that. It is an addiction. It's also something someone does when stressed or under pressure. What does that remind you of?
When stressed, many people smoke a cigarette. This is seen as socially acceptable. It eventually becomes an addiction. However, it will eventually kill you. Cutting does not (as it is not done with that intention; the reason for cuttin are different from the reason for commiting suicide).
Other people will have a drink when stressed. This is seen as socially acceptable. It eventually becomes an addiction. It can kill you if the addiction goes to far. Again, cutting will not kill, as it is not done with that intention.
Of course, people take these things for enjoyment as well as stress.
I see nothing wrong with cutting. It is less destructive than more socially acceptable forms of stress relief. It may not be healthy, but there are worse things you can do. Like any addiction, you can only stop if you really want to. It takes will power and stength of mind. You have to admit you have a problem before you can solve it.
That's why antidepressants can help you stop. When you take antidepressants, you have admitted you have a problem and need outside help. They help relieve the stress, therefore making it easier to stop cutting. I myself stopped just inder a year ago. Like any addiction, I still get urges. I still think about doing it. But I'm surviving without.
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Post by black jewelled rain on Jan 2, 2004 2:19:35 GMT -5
And to BloodyAngelTears, you don't need to choose between your boyfriend and cutting. The reason he gets upset is because he is worried about you and doesn't want to see you hurting. He is confronted by the physical manifestation of your pain, and it's a hard thing to have to see.
It is hard for him to understand why you need to cut. It is impossible to understand unless you have done it yourself. Perhaps you need to explain to him why you do it and how it makes you feel. Make it clear that the cutting isn't the problem. The depression is. Once you cure the underlying problem,the others are easier to sort out.
Tell him you need his support, not for him to point out what you already know is wrong. Chances are, he'll make a huge effort to help you with this once you explain it to him. If not, then perhaps he is the wrong guy. But that's for you to decide.
I have been with someone who freaked out about the cutting and didn't understand. I then found someone who, although couldn't understand entirely (he had never cut himself), he was very considerate and caring and was a huge help to me.
Talk to your boyfriend. Give him a chance to try and understand. He might surpise you.
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Mistress
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Post by Mistress on Jan 3, 2004 13:47:37 GMT -5
It's an addiction just like anything else out there (drugs, alcohol, tobacco, etc.). If you aren't accepted for who you are and what you do, then f*ck them. You can't just change over night. It is an unhealthy thing, that I'll admit, but it's a choice. You're only harming yourself in the process...
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Post by black jewelled rain on Jan 3, 2004 23:31:04 GMT -5
It is an addiction. I always felt it was that way. I never realised it was until i tried to stop.
Have you ever had a parent etc who used to smoke? Even if they quit over 20 years ago, they still occassionally say I'd love to have a ciggie after dinner". I believe cutting is the same. You can quit, sure. But you'll always think about it.
After experiencing so much myself, I'm considering a career as a counsellor. Too many professionals don't understand. Imagine the difference if your counsellor turned round and said "it's ok. I've been where you are".
I'd like to be able to help people in that way. ;D
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CrimsonAngel
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Post by CrimsonAngel on Jan 4, 2004 1:33:07 GMT -5
It is hard for him to understand why you need to cut. It is impossible to understand unless you have done it yourself. Perhaps you need to explain to him why you do it and how it makes you feel. Make it clear that the cutting isn't the problem. The depression is. Once you cure the underlying problem,the others are easier to sort out. Talk to your boyfriend. Give him a chance to try and understand. He might surpise you. The thing is, that he mostly does understand....he's been there, he went through everything I'm going through....but I'm not cutting cause I'm depressed....I cut cause I don't like myself....and Don't like myself because I cut.....I guess its a vicious cycle....so I dunno anymore.....
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Post by black jewelled rain on Jan 4, 2004 1:45:06 GMT -5
Not liking yourself is simply an element of depression. Talking id the best way to deal with the problem. If he's been through it himself, he is worried because he doesn't want you to feel that kind of pain.
He cares. That much os obvious from what you have said. Where there is love, there is a way. ;D
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Post by Lina Inverse on Jan 4, 2004 3:28:26 GMT -5
There's something that has to be changed here:
Why do you not like yourself because you cut when you've realized that it's not all that bad? You're not any worse of a person because you do something that you like doing. You're not any worse of a person because you like doing something that isn't so bad. You're not any worse of a person because you're wiser than most of society because you took a few moments to realize that cutting isn't such a bad thing.
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